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Installing host from agent

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jul 05, 2017 4:43:53 am EDT

Hello Allan,

Thank you for your post.

I attempted to install host while connected through agent the other day and it did not work, kicked me off. I tried to search but didn't see an "approved" way of installing the host from the agent, what am I missing?

You are not missing anything. Currently, "converting" Agent to Host isn't available. So in order to install the Host it's better, to choose the "conventional" path, that is prepare a one-click installer, and have someone run it on the remote PC when they close the Agent.

However, the converting feature is on our wish list and we'll implement it some time soon.

PS. Just bought my license, really enjoying the product, looking forward to a faster file transfer folder browsing experience you all were talking about back in December.

Thank you for the order! We will do our best to re-write the File Transfer mode later this year to make it quicker.

Don't hesitate to ask me if you have other questions.

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Sucessful Install pop up

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jul 03, 2017 5:41:32 am EDT

Hello,

Thank you for your message.

I have played with previous releases and noticed that after an installation I get a popup notification that RU was installed successfully with an OK and Tell me more button. Can that be removed?

This message only appears when/if you select "Generate internet-ID" option during MSI Configuration, install the Host and then connect to the Host the first time.

In order to remove the message, you need to click on the OK button while being physically at the remote PC. The button won't work if you click on it remotely, i.e. through a remote session.

Any suggestions on removing this? And also providing an option to disable this in the future?

If the first connection is established from a Viewer registered with a PRO or SITE license, the message is not shown at all. Please, check out our license comparison.  See "Full silent install" at the bottom of the table.

Hope that helps.

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Do you have a multi-user version for Server OSes, like Teamviewer?

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jul 01, 2017 12:15:07 pm EDT

Hi David,

In the case of [censored] there is a "console 9 character ID" that is assigned to the "machine itself", and if you connect to that then it's as if you are sitting at the console of the server. However, each RDP / session (or user profile) also has its own separate 9 character ID. I think it is assigned per user profile?

With Remote Utilities you connect to the same ID and then simply switch to a desired terminal session on the toolbar ("Terminal user switch" icon).

However, if you want each terminal user to have their specific instance of Remote Utilities agent running (and thus have a dedicated connection entry in tech's address book for each terminal user), then you should use Agent instead of Host. Users don't have to re-download the Agent for each session though - they can leave it on their computer and run on demand. Here is a blog post about the differences between Host and Agent.  

I want the same functionality in RU - I want to do a support session with them on their desktop. I *don't* want the RDP behavior of taking over a session and kicking the exisitng user off their session.

That shouldn't happen.

I think TV's way of doing this only works for Internet 9 character connections, not for direct IP connections, because the server will (usually) just have one IP for all users?

An IP address belongs to a network interface rather than to a specific application. I'm no expert in virtualization, but I can guess that it's still possible to set up virtual IP addresses on the same subnet (and hence accessible the same way the server can be accessible) for terminal users/sessions. More on the subject.

Hope that helps.

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Do you have a multi-user version for Server OSes, like Teamviewer?

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 29, 2017 5:47:38 pm EDT

Hello David,

Thank you for your post.

Remote Utilities allows you to switch between existing/running terminal sessions if that is what you mean.  However, Remote Utilities itself cannot act as Microsoft Terminal Services and create sessions.

Hope that helps.

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Windows 10 super slow if login requires password

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 28, 2017 6:48:59 pm EDT

That sounds interesting, thank you both for your input. We will try to investigate the issue. Perhaps there is something we can do about this.

By the way, a new update has been released today (28 June, 2017), version 6.7.0.1. You can download it from here https://www.remoteutilities.com/download/ . You may try to update Viewer and Host and see if the issue persists with this version too.

Thanks!

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Windows 10 super slow if login requires password

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 28, 2017 8:20:23 am EDT

Hello Larry,

Thank you for your message.

Is this happening on all Hosts or just a single Host?

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Touch/Tablet Issues

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 26, 2017 4:54:05 am EDT

Hello Charles,

I'm glad to hear it worked for you!

One thing however, is every time the tablet is restarted, they get the 'remote utilities' notification which we cannot click on.

This message should only appear at first install. Yes, it's not clickable remotely, to avoid rogue use of the software. Only the remote user can click on it. So it appears even after restart , because it was never  clicked.

Is there a registry key to disable that? (Asking as I am being too lazy to check)


We'll soon add a fix that will ensure that this message:

1. Appears upon first connection rather than immediately after installation.
2. When first connection occurs from a Viewer registered with the "per operator standard" or "site license" key, the message will not appear at all.

This will help us find a balance between the needs of pro users who need completely silent install even with Internet-ID enabled (for direct connection a silent install is no problem) and our need to provide a legitimate tool which cannot be used for rogue activities out-of-the-box.

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Norton always blocks

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 23, 2017 5:14:41 am EDT

Hello Allan,

Thank you for taking the time to investigate this. We will definitely contact Symantec regarding this detection.

However, it should be noted that it's a grey area. Here is the classification description. Although it says "virus, trojan" this classification uses heuristic methods which are prone to errors. Heuristics isn't a surefire way to say if something is a virus or a trojan. It can only say that there is a probability of this file being a virus given some attributes.

This is a major issue with modern antivirus programs for us and any other remote control software vendor. Our program category is risky by definition. Antivirus programs try to be on the safe side and they will rather warn the user than not. Even if the program is legitimate there is a chance that it is used by a rogue to access a computer, and so the antivirus program's duty is to let the user know about it.

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Norton always blocks

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 19, 2017 2:54:40 pm EDT

Hello Allan,

It would be nice to have at least a screenshot of that window then. Is that possible?

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RDP connection through RU "reconnects" constantly

Conrad, Administrator (Posts: 2116)

Jun 19, 2017 4:47:19 am EDT

Hello Jeffrey and Benny,

Actually, RDP (Microsoft Remote Desktop Services) may be the fastest on the market. Not surprisingly, because it comes from the folks who develop the operating system itself.

That said, it only makes sense to compare apples to apples. Namely,

1. If you compare RU's Full Control mode against RDP, you need to use the same connection type. In this case direct connection. It doesn't make sense to compare Full Control over Internet ID with RDP over direct connection.

2. Color depth settings should be the same in both cases.

3. RDP can automatically optimize performance. Currently, RU doesn't adjust performance according to connection speed whereas RDP does.

Still, I'm not saying that RDP isn't faster than Full Control, perhaps it is (due to program architecture and some clever code). I'm only saying that the difference may not be that big if you take into consideration the factors above. Soon we'll implement auto-adjustment too.

All in all, Remote Utilities allows you to get the best of both worlds. So you can work with RDP in RU too, and use RU's powerful address book capabilities to manage your RDP connections. We need to fix that drop issue soon though.

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